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gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe in a united America. You seem to believe
bringing your kids to
> hate America Sunday school will unite the country.
That's what I don't get.
No. I believe in raising white children to understand the
roots of
bitterness and anger that may still exist in the black
community. I believe
in raising black children to understand the hardships of the
past, but use
them as motivation to overcome in the present and the
future, not as a
crutch or as an excuse for reverse racism.
That's what I understand. That is the united America that I
got from Obama's
speech. That is what I want.
So what's the plan to unite? Acknowledge racism so we can
move on? We all
> know it exists. Embrace it and teach it to our
children? I think not.
Embrace it? No. Acknowledge it? Hell yes. Better acknowledge
it if you hope
to overcome it.
> By "investing in our schools and our communities;
by enforcing our civil
> rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal
justice system; by
> providing this generation with ladders of opportunity
that were unavailable
> for previous generations." The path for blacks,
Obama insists, requires
> "binding our particular grievances — for better
health care, and better
> schools, and better jobs — to the larger aspirations of
all Americans — the
> white woman struggling to break the glass ceiling, the
white man who's been
> laid off, the immigrant trying to feed his
family."
Well, this plan only works if you buy into the first part of
the plan.....if
people are able to shake off the culture of
"victimhood" and take
responsibility for themselves and their families.
If that starts to take root, then suddenly the money already
being spent on
welfare programs begins to yield results, instead of just
disappearing into
a black hole of poverty and hopelessness.
It's a fundamental shift in the entire dynamic of race in
this
country.....it's a daunting change, but I believe one thing
is true: it's
the only way to solve the issue once and for all.
Otherwise, what you suggest is true....we continue to throw
good money after
bad, nothing improves, taxes bloat, the economy sags,
poverty continues, and
everything continues to suck.
Meanwhile, the "real culprits" for our problems
are: "a corporate culture
> rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting
practices and short-term
> greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special
interests; economic
> policies that favor the few over the many."
To an extent, that's true. Inside trading and cooking the
books is
disastrous on many levels, even for pure capitalism.
I don't necessarily buy into the "economic policies
that favor the few over
the many" business. That is a veiled jab at the rich.
Economic policies in
this country can favor anyone who works hard enough and is
ambitious enough.
I don't think you spread wealth to people by taking it from
others......you
do it by giving them the means to achieve their own wealth.
But again, that
requires that the people have the means and the desire to
take advantage of
the oppurtunities afforded them. If they sit feeling sorry
for themselves
because of the sins of the past.....well, NOTHING is going
to work.
Sigh. Here we go again.
>
> For all the wonderful rhetoric and tantalizing promise
of Obama and his
> speech, there's not much that is actually new here.
This was largely a
> restatement of Jeremiah Wright's indictment of America,
delivered in
> University of Chicago parlance instead of South Side
Chicago diatribe.
Yes, there is something new.....it's the fundamental shift
in how we view
ourselves. I've never heard a politician tell blacks that
they can draw from
the reality of their past, but they cannot use it going
forward as a tool.
I've never heard them tell whites that it is "OK"
to feel resentment for the
types of racial programs that can punish them simply because
of their race,
and the sins of their forefathers.
THAT seems quite new to me, in the public discourse anyway.
Let's run with
it.
The old baggage has been replaced with shinier suitcases,
but the contents
> are the same as ever. Black America's problems can be
solved by spending
> more money on the same old Great Society programs.
Nope. He even mentioned failed welfare programs by name.
That was an
acknowledgement that the same-old same-old just won't
work.....
My hope for something better proved too audacious in the
end.
>
Your hope is just misguided. Perhaps you don't see any hope
that people can
fundamentally change...if that's the case, then I can see
why you would only
hope for political slogans that address the continued
symptoms of our
division, instead of hoping to resolve that division at it's
source.
--
Her face used to feel so soft
Until her agent's doctor pulled it off
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