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I can't believe no one has posted yet about Fitna
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2008-03-27 18:46:05
That was a powerful movie.

Wow.

If you haven't seen it yet, do so.

But give it your undivided attention, then get away and go
talk to someone.

It is heavy.

(It can be found at liveleak.com if you haven't seen it)


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Re: I can't believe no one has posted yet about Fitna
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2008-03-27 20:53:16
Video is at:

http://
www.liveleak.com/view?i=7d9_1206624103

Probably the best illustration of what I've been saying for
years.  The 
conflict we're in isn't just about Iraq or Afghanistan. 
It's about 
freedom, and it's about stopping a power bent on world
domination in the 
same manner that the Nazis and the Communists were.

It's incredible to see the western apologists try to back
away from 
this, to do damage control and try to "prevent
violence" in the wake of 
this movie.  I mean, it's a movie.  What is there to get
violent over? 
The Dutch justice department even tried to prevent the
release of this. 
  It's so dangerous right?

Something posted on another group today:
Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete
system.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military
components. 
The religious component is a beard for all the other
components.

Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a
country to 
agitate for their so-called "religious rights."

When politically correct and culturally diverse societies
agree to "the 
reasonable" Muslim demands for their "religious
rights," they also get 
the other components under the table. Here's how it works
(percentages 
source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007)).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any
given country 
they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as
a threat to 
anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films,
stereotyped 
for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic
minorities and 
disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and
among street 
gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

 From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in
proportion to their 
percentage of the population.

They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by
Islamic 
standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for
Muslims. 
They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature
it on their 
shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply. (United
States).

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government
to allow them 
to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The
ultimate goal of 
Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia
law over the 
entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase
lawlessness 
as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris --
car-burnings). 
Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in
uprisings and 
threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia 
formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue
burning:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror
attacks and 
ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

 From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of
non-believers and 
other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use
of Sharia Law 
as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" --
the Islamic House of 
Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a
Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust,
Muslims 
then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of
Arab life. It was me 
against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my
family 
against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe;
and the 
tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel.
-- Leon Uris, 
"The Haj"

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as
France, the 
Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on
their ethnicity. 
Muslims do not integrate into the community at large.
Therefore, they 
exercise more power than their national average would
indicate.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism
and Islam: The 
Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat..

www.frontline.org.za/books_videos/sti.htm

Jerry Johnson wrote:
> That was a powerful movie.
> 
> Wow.
> 
> If you haven't seen it yet, do so.
> 
> But give it your undivided attention, then get away and
go talk to someone.
> 
> It is heavy.
> 
> (It can be found at liveleak.com if you haven't seen
it)
> 
> 
> 

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Re: I can't believe no one has posted yet about Fitna
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2008-03-27 21:26:17
Everyone needs to see this movie, it is the brutal truth
about the threat of
Islamo-fascism.


On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 4:46 PM, Jerry J wrote:

> That was a powerful movie.
>
> Wow.
>
> If you haven't seen it yet, do so.
>
> But give it your undivided attention, then get away and
go talk to
> someone.
>
> It is heavy.
>
> (It can be found at liveleak.com if you haven't seen
it)
>


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Re: I can't believe no one has posted yet about Fitna
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2008-03-27 21:31:49
I've not seen it yet and I'm not going to talk on the right
or wrong of it
till I do but the environment around it is VERY telling.
Network Solutions,
who hosts racist, porn and many other very objectionable
sites blocked the
site for the video because of 'terms of service' violations.
In truth, they
were so afraid of backlash that they violated their own
operational
practices. The question is, why are people so afraid of
showing this movie
when something like the last temptation had no problem
(though a single
firebomb attack associated with the movie injured 13)

Why are people afraid of free speech? Be headings?

On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Jerry Johnson
<jmilojgmail.com> wrote:

> That was a powerful movie.
>
> Wow.
>
> If you haven't seen it yet, do so.
>
> But give it your undivided attention, then get away and
go talk to
> someone.
>
> It is heavy.
>
> (It can be found at liveleak.com if you haven't seen
it)
>
>
> 

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Re: I can't believe no one has posted yet about Fitna
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2008-03-29 21:16:09
(IsraelNN.com) The LiveLink site removed a short film titled
"Fitna" from
its website on Friday after receiving threats "of a
very serious nature."
The film portrays Islam as a violent religion that threatens
European
democracy.
United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-Moon criticized the
film, saying,
"There is no justification for hate speech or
incitement to violence."
Muslim societies are not at war with the West, he said. 
Rather, he said,
"small minorities of extremists on different
sides" are deliberately
stirring up conflict.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/144082


"threats of a of a very serious nature" - A
polite, peaceful request I
assume
"There is no justification for hate speech or
incitement to violence" -
Where are his condemnations when terrorists groups do this?
When his own
human rights committee does this?
"a small minority of extremists on different
sides" - moral equivalence
because both sides cut off heads.

You can find terrorist propaganda videos that put fitna to
shame on Youtube
and he hasn't condemned them. I guess they just don't show
Islam in a
negative light.


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