In real life there are many kinds of "fan", including a person who reads
your book (an invisible fan) and a person in the audience at your
presentation (a visible fan). I think of Delicious fans like those
audience members - the speaker or bookmarker didn't handpick them -
they're just listening. I believe most people looking at a network would
understand that the person's "fans" may not have any other association
with that person.
It sounds like you'd be interested in having semi-private bookmarks,
visible only to people you've added to your network. Delicious doesn't
have that feature but it's on the grand list of things we've been
thinking about for a while.
Britta
Del.icio.us community manager intern
--- In ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com">ydn-delicious
yahoogroups.com, "Tim" <gamemaster
...> wrote:
>
> Not to re-hash the old thread, but there's something I failed to
> point out upon reviewing it...and more to add as well.
>
> > Personally, I think it's a little _less_ "creepy" that someone has
> > visibly "subscribed" to the "Tim Schoon channel". At least you know
> > that Person X out there is reviewing your links. Isn't it
> more "creepy"
> > to think that hordes of _completely anonymous_ people are looking at
> > what you've bookmarked? But you don't mind that.
>
> There's a difference between publicly accessibly bookarks, and adding
> one's self to a person's network without their explicit permission
> which does nothing more than state there is an association between me
> and this other person. My mutual network contact (my mother) is
> someone I know and approve of. The other is someone I don't know who
> has no reason to display me as a person they are associated with.
> Even without me being a part of their network they can still view my
> public bookmarks - that's not the problem.
>
> > I imagine it's merely a convenience. He/she can go directly to "my
> > network" instead of looking you up manually.
> >
> > No disrespect intended, but this sounds a bit like paranoia. If you
> > don't like the social aspects of a social bookmarking site, then you
> > shouldn't be using it.
> >
>
> Still, I am not associated with the person in question and I do not
> want it displayed that there is.
>
> And before you slap the word paranoia into this, remember
> that "Paranoid thinking typically includes persecutory beliefs
> concerning a perceived threat." (from Wikipedia). There's no
> perceived threat here. I do not feel threatened by this person, only
> a given association that does not exist. It's part of the social
> networking aspect of del.icio.us. And while we're at it, it's not an
> issue of whether I like or not - clearly I do, if I've added my
> mother. What I don't like is being forced to have someone on my
> network that I don't want there. Sites like MySpace and Facebook
> require you to approve them before they are added as a matter of
> privacy. As Britta (I think, maybe someone else) said in the newer
> thread, it's all about how people choose to use del.icio.us. I choose
> to have it store my bookmarks in one place, accessible from anywhere,
> and to be able to network with people I approve of. That means, no
> strangers at all.
>
> > Most people would consider having fans a good thing. Can you
> control
> > who is a fan of yours in real life?
>
> Fans of mine in real life cannot add me to their network without my
> approval, lest it be called harrassment (in one form or other). They
> can be my fan without my having to know about it. Not the case here.
>
> > Ignorance is bliss??? Seriously...you're revealing a ton about
> yourself
> > (through bookmarking habits) on a public site, you post half a dozen
> > forms of contact in an email in a public forum, and you're worried
> about
> > being seen by fans? Putting your head in the sand won't change any
> of
> > that.
>
> The information I've chosen to include in my signature and through
> bookmarking habits is information I have CHOSEN to share. Again,
> there is a difference between being seen by fans, and to have them
> intrude where you would rather they not be unless you yourself have
> given them permission. I did not grant the person in question
> permission. They do not need to be a part of my network to view my
> bookmarks.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Tim
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>
>
> --- In ydn-delicious%40yahoogroups.com">ydn-delicious
yahoogroups.com, "Larson, Timothy E."
> <telarson
> wrote:
> >
>
> [snipped for above]
>
> > Tim
> > --
> > Tim Larson AMT2 Unix Systems Administrator
> > InterCall, a division of West Corporation
> >
> > Eschew obfuscation!
>
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