Re: Large web applications

The idea is sound, but how large is the Eiffel community? If you look at the major open source projects the majority are based around Java, and the other majors appear to be scripting language based Ruby, Pyton and PHP. Each has a large community of fired up developers. I don't know why Eiffel never really took off, but it seems to have lost out to Java.

So the question is - are there enough open source Eiffel enthusiasts to make open source projects of the scale of a web app framework feasible?

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From: javier hector < vrhj2000%40yahoo.com.ar">vrhj2000yahoo.com.ar>
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Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 2:13:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eiffel_software] Large web applications

Web Applications
I think that Eiffel need a framework like Ruby on Rails(Convention over Configuration) .
This framework could be done usign
-->Goanna
-->Gobo
-->Eposix
--&gt;DAO (EiffelStore, ECLI, EPOM, etc)
--&gt;Orhers

Colin Adams <colinpauladams hotmail.com> escribió: >From: brucemountaol. com

&gt;Speaking strictly as a matter of priorities, I would prefer the Eiffel
&gt;community spend it's energy on creating more tools that would help me use
>Eiffel for
>large web applications.

Some of us are.
How about yourself?

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I also am interested in learning more about web application frameworks
with Eiffel. I've done a lot of web programming and web maintenance
using PHP, Perl and Python, and in these jobs have seen some of the
worst code ever. not modular, not safe, not reusable, not even sane
half the time!

i would love to see how Eiffel is being used in web environments and
what web app frameworks people are working with or creating anew.

All one needs is a handful of motivated, highly skilled people. open
source projects don't need to have hordes of developers to produce
quality results.

Alex

PS
I wouldn't say Eiffel lost out to Java by any means, instead i see it
as a good thing that Eiffel stands on it's own merits, instead needing
a gigantic marketing effort like Sun marketing Java.

On 4/11/07, Neil Murphy < voltarol94065%40yahoo.com">voltarol94065yahoo.com> wrote:
&gt; The idea is sound, but how large is the Eiffel community? If you look at the major open source projects the majority are based around Java, and the other majors appear to be scripting language based Ruby, Pyton and PHP. Each has a large community of fired up developers. I don't know why Eiffel never really took off, but it seems to have lost out to Java.
&gt;
> So the question is - are there enough open source Eiffel enthusiasts to make open source projects of the scale of a web app framework feasible?
>

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