maemo-developers Digest, Vol 18, Issue 34

i have to buy a hub of kraun 4 ports usb, now i would to
connect a
keyboard and a mouse to use better the nokia 770 as keyboard
i founded
a comat (small keyboard)
as mouse i think to use a logitech, but this is not the real
problem,
after to have connect the usb cable to the nokia and then to
the hub,
i would to know to take 5 volts from nokia to use the
keyboard and the
mouse.

can any help me ?

awaiting a reply,

best faithfully , paolo del bene
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I followed these directions, more or less, and built a
working cable..  
I used a self powered usb hub, so I didn't do anything with
the 
powersupply stuff.

    http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006/01/usb-power
-injector-2.html

Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems to be
another 
story.   Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to work.
 I believe 
this is because the X server is tweaked out to work with the
touch 
screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a cursor
to report 
it's position) wasnt considered important.

Cheers
-bob


paolo delbene wrote:
> i have to buy a hub of kraun 4 ports usb, now i would
to connect a
> keyboard and a mouse to use better the nokia 770 as
keyboard i founded
> a comat (small keyboard)
> as mouse i think to use a logitech, but this is not the
real problem,
> after to have connect the usb cable to the nokia and
then to the hub,
> i would to know to take 5 volts from nokia to use the
keyboard and the
> mouse.
>
> can any help me ?
>
> awaiting a reply,
>
> best faithfully , paolo del bene
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On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann wrote:
....
> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support seems
to be another 
> story.   Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear to
work.  I believe 
> this is because the X server is tweaked out to work
with the touch 
> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing a
cursor to report 
> it's position) wasnt considered important.
...

You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic
link /home/user/.icons.
(But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses need to
step in.)

BR; Kimmo

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ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann
wrote:
> ....
>   
>> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support
seems to be another 
>> story.   Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't appear
to work.  I believe 
>> this is because the X server is tweaked out to work
with the touch 
>> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like showing
a cursor to report 
>> it's position) wasnt considered important.
>>     
> ...
>
> You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic
> link /home/user/.icons.
> (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses
need to step in.)
>
>   

Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk, it is
used instead
of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to use
own
cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply copy it
to
'/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'.

The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is used
for tap&hold
animation, therefore we actually still have cursor (would be
also
possible to hide completely from X server by disabling
driver funcs
implementing that).

> BR; Kimmo
>
>   

// Tapani

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On Thu, Oct 26, 2006 at 02:10:08PM +0300, ext Tapani Pälli
wrote:
> ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob
Herrmann wrote:
> >> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse
support seems to be another 
> >> story.   Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't
appear to work.  I believe 
> >> this is because the X server is tweaked out to
work with the touch 
> >> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like
showing a cursor to report 
> >> it's position) wasnt considered important.
> >
> > You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic
> > link /home/user/.icons.
> > (But that is where my knowledge ends and X
geniuses need to step in.)
> 
> Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk,
it is used instead
> of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to
use own
> cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply
copy it to
> '/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'.
> 
> The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is
used for tap&hold
> animation, therefore we actually still have cursor
(would be also
> possible to hide completely from X server by disabling
driver funcs
> implementing that).

That only works for GTK apps though.  The core X cursor has
still been
hacked to be invisible; this will be configurable in some
later stage,
in a hypothetical firmware release that may or may not ever
get made[0].
The code's been written.

Cheers,
Daniel

[0]: I'm not a marketer, I'm a hacker.
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Ok, so If I change the cursor to be visible, does the 770
work with any 
usb mouse?   Or is there a configuration change I need to
make to the X 
server?

This is for the use case "I'm traveling and have 3
hours to tinker in a 
hotel and want to use a travel mouse and keyboard to hack a
python/ruby 
ditty to tabulate my expenses" - which is a pretty hard
sell to anyone 
other than the developer crowd.  

-bob

Tapani Pälli wrote:
> ext Kimmo Hämäläinen wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 14:54 -0400, ext Bob Herrmann
wrote:
>> ....
>>   
>>     
>>> Any usb keyboard should work, but mouse support
seems to be another 
>>> story.   Just hooking up a usb mouse doesn't
appear to work.  I believe 
>>> this is because the X server is tweaked out to
work with the touch 
>>> screen and compatibility with a mouse (like
showing a cursor to report 
>>> it's position) wasnt considered important.
>>>     
>>>       
>> ...
>>
>> You can see the cursor if you remove the symbolic
>> link /home/user/.icons.
>> (But that is where my knowledge ends and X geniuses
need to step in.)
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> Yep, we are using a 'invisible cursor theme' for Gtk,
it is used instead
> of X defaults. You can remove link, or if you want to
use own
> cursorimage instead of invisible one you can simply
copy it to
> '/usr/share/icons/xcursor-transparent/cursors/transp'.
>
> The reason for using this theme is that cursor icon is
used for tap&hold
> animation, therefore we actually still have cursor
(would be also
> possible to hide completely from X server by disabling
driver funcs
> implementing that).
>
>   
>> BR; Kimmo
>>
>>   
>>     
>
> // Tapani
>
>   
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