OS 2007 / 770 hacker edition with sound and video

Hi,

An update to the OS 2007 / 770 hacker edition is now
available for download at http://maemo.org/downloads/os2007_hacker_edition.php.

The main news is that sound is now working including media
and system sounds.
Video works to some extent, though not the sample clip that
comes with the image which is intended for the N800.
VOIP calls work too.

This time it’s a fiasco image. You can flash it in the same
way as official releases.
This is described in Markku’s notes (http://maemo.o
rg/maemowiki/Os2007On770) which are up-to-date with the
latest developments.

There are still many glitches here and there, instability
and performance problems, but with media capabilities this
image is much more attractive.

Help is appreciated. Markku’s notes are open to
contributions. 
Additions and corrections are welcome, including suggestions
for addressing the remaining issues.

Problem reports specific to this release are welcome as well
and should go to this Garage project (https:/
/garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770).
Not to the Maemo bugzilla and definitely not to any Nokia
support. There is no official support for this.

Finally, patches are most welcome, preferably attached to
the Garage project's (https:/
/garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770) tracker.

Enjoy,
Carlos


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Carlos Guerreiro wrote:

> Finally, patches are most welcome, preferably attached
to the Garage 
> project's (https:/
/garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770) tracker.

Sorry for stupid question, but patches to what? Where are
the sources 
(including your specific changes to make it work)? The
garage project 
svn is mostly empty and the download page contains only the
binary 
firmware image. I would be also interested in the sources of
your 
(abandoned) attempt to use newer kernel and initfs. So far I
was 
ignoring this project mainly because lack of sources. Maybe
I'm just blind?

Frantisek
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ext Frantisek Dufka wrote:
> Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
>
>> Finally, patches are most welcome, preferably
attached to the Garage 
>> project's (https:/
/garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770) tracker.
>
> Sorry for stupid question, but patches to what? Where
are the sources 
> (including your specific changes to make it work)? The
garage project 
> svn is mostly empty and the download page contains only
the binary 
> firmware image. I would be also interested in the
sources of your 
> (abandoned) attempt to use newer kernel and initfs. So
far I was 
> ignoring this project mainly because lack of sources.
Maybe I'm just 
> blind?
>

Hi Frantisek,

No, you are not blind. Thanks for pointing this out.
Most of the patches we made are indeed to proprietary
components.

Some are to free components (e.g.: X window) or to scripts.
Markku is organizing the patches them in the OS2007 on 770
garage project,
against the source code in Maemo 3.0:

https:
//garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/

Many problems remain, some of which will likely be on free
components.

All open source code for the attempt to use the newer kernel
and initfs 
will be published as well.

Br,
Carlos

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Carlos Guerreiro wrote:
> Markku is organizing the patches them in the OS2007 on
770 garage project,
> against the source code in Maemo 3.0:
> 
> https:
//garage.maemo.org/projects/os2007on770/
> 
> Many problems remain, some of which will likely be on
free components.
> 
> All open source code for the attempt to use the newer
kernel and initfs 
> will be published as well.
> 

Hello,

thank you for the OS2007 on 770 project and thank you for
publishing all 
the info. Recent changes in wiki documenting all details are
much 
appreciated. I have installed it on my N770 and I'm
impressed. This is 
perfectly usable system  Seems even
faster (except booting) than 
OS2006. All the goodies from N800 (better desktop, better
browser UI) 
are there. I haven't seen any glitches yet except the
accuradio one 
(already fixed) and some control panel and connectivity
oddities after 
first boot that never appeared after next reboot. Also there
are some 
references to N800 which doesn't bother me but may someone.

I think this project so far proved that

1. OS2007 on N700 makes perfect sense (i.e. is not slow and
unusable and 
even improves few things) so it was worthwile. IMO even the

non-supported status is OK since there are also tons of bugs
in OS2006 
waiting ages to fix despite its status (sorry . The
biggest reason to 
not to use this system is the same as with N800 i.e. current
lack of 
OS2007 applications.

2. Many fixes are in closed components so we can just watch
one hacker 
with non-public knowledge having fun instead of having
ability to do it 
ourselves without Nokia or effectively join key parts of the
process.

So now one question is, what about future?

Are Sardine or other fishy distributions still for N770 too?
Will your 
patches be merged to IT2007 code so it will not be hardcoded
to N800 and 
the planned device independence (mentioned by Ari) will be
part of 
OS2007? Can we also expect newer OS2007 on N770 releases
based on newer 
N800 firmwares with newer features and APIs?

BTW, as current OS2007 on N770 version uses same kernel and
initfs as 
latest OS2006, it is possible to dual boot between OS2006
and 7 and even 
extract and flash just the rootfs.jffs2 from FIASCO image
and do not 
loose the bootmenu and/or custom kernel when installing.

Frantisek

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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:00:26PM +0100, Frantisek Dufka
wrote:
> 1. OS2007 on N700 makes perfect sense (i.e. is not slow
and unusable and 
> even improves few things) so it was worthwile. IMO even
the 
> non-supported status is OK since there are also tons of
bugs in OS2006 
> waiting ages to fix despite its status (sorry . The
biggest reason to 
> not to use this system is the same as with N800 i.e.
current lack of 
> OS2007 applications.

What applications do you miss?  "Porting" OS2006
apps to OS2007 should
be pretty trivial, if the sources are available.

Marius Gedminas
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Did you know that 7/5 people don't know how to use
fractions?

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Marius Gedminas wrote:

> What applications do you miss?  "Porting"
OS2006 apps to OS2007 should
> be pretty trivial, if the sources are available.

None, this was just example how people (non developers) may
think. I 
believe not everything in application catalog 2006
(including WIP) 
simply works on N800 right now.

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It was even a hassle (from a user-only-standpoint) to get
everything
up&running after updating to OS2005->OS2006. Many
third-party apps
where not available for OS2006 at least for some months, and
users are
not able to "just recompile".

Well thats why I think java would be really important for
healthy
700/N800 development ;)

lg Clemens
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 06:21:45PM +0100, Clemens Eisserer
wrote:
> It was even a hassle (from a user-only-standpoint) to
get everything
> up&running after updating to OS2005->OS2006.
Many third-party apps
> where not available for OS2006 at least for some
months, and users are
> not able to "just recompile".

I know I'll probably regret this, but I offer anyone a free
recompilation of any OS2006 app that is not available for
OS2007.  The
difference is much smaller than the one between OS2005 and
OS2006.

> Well thats why I think java would be really important
for healthy
> 700/N800 development ;)

I find Java apps to be too big and slow on my 1.6 GHz
Pentium M
laptop...

Marius Gedminas
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The UNIX philosophy basically involves giving you enough
rope to
hang yourself.  And then a couple of feet more, just to be
sure.

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> The main news is that sound is now working including
media and system sounds.
> Video works to some extent, though not the sample clip
that comes with the image which is intended for the N800.

Does this mean the accelerated Xsp pixel doubling works?

-- 
It doesn't take a nukular scientist to pronounce foilage! 
--Marge Simpson
http:
//www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html
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On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 01:51:46PM -0600, ext Levi Bard
wrote:
> >The main news is that sound is now working
including media and system 
> >sounds.
> >Video works to some extent, though not the sample
clip that comes with the 
> >image which is intended for the N800.
> 
> Does this mean the accelerated Xsp pixel doubling
works?

I haven't tested this hypothesis, but it should.  (FWIW,
it's also fixed
in the next firmware release for the N800, but using it for
video is
pointless anyway.)

Cheers,
Daniel

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