changes in message_window.glade

Hi guys,

First I want to mention that I'm a lucky Gajim user
(gaim-svn on
Debian). Thanks for this cool software.

however:

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r9571 | js | 2008-05-04 22:47:51 +0200 (So, 04 Mai 2008) | 2
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Redesign the chat window GUI. Should be more userfriendly
now.
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It isn't, at least for me. :-(
I must say first that I'm blind, so i'm using a screen
reader software
(Orca), using the keyboard exclusively (no mouse.)

The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite accessible
for me to
access functions such as buddy information or sending files.
After the
change the context menu hass been replaced by some buttons
which are
currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't provide
shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message window
style.

cheers

  Henning

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Henning Oschwald wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> First I want to mention that I'm a lucky Gajim user
(gaim-svn on
> Debian). Thanks for this cool software.
> 
> however:
> 
>
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> r9571 | js | 2008-05-04 22:47:51 +0200 (So, 04 Mai
2008) | 2 lines
> 
> Redesign the chat window GUI. Should be more
userfriendly now.
> ----------
> 
> It isn't, at least for me. :-(
> I must say first that I'm blind, so i'm using a screen
reader software
> (Orca), using the keyboard exclusively (no mouse.)
> 
> The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite
accessible for me to
> access functions such as buddy information or sending
files. After the
> change the context menu hass been replaced by some
buttons which are
> currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't
provide
> shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message
window style.
> 
> cheers
> 
>   Henning

Hi,

Thanks for your mail, that's nice to have comments from
"non-standard-users"
This space is currently not used in Gajim, so that's nice to
have those 
icons I think.
But I agree that using only the keyboard is interesting, not
only for 
you. So what about adding shortcuts like Alt+I for
Information window, etc ?

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I already was pointed out to this mail shortly after it
appeared and
it's already fixed in SVN.

Henning:
All shortcuts were working, like Ctrl-I or Ctrl-H. Only
Alt-A
wasn't working anymore, which is fixed in svn now. Hope this
improves
Gajim's usability for you.

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On Pungenday, day 55 of Discord 3174, Yann Leboulanger
wrote:
> Henning Oschwald wrote:

[...]
>> The old 'actions' context menu (alt+a) was quite
accessible for me to
>> access functions such as buddy information or
sending files. After the
>> change the context menu hass been replaced by some
buttons which are
>> currently not accessible via the keyboard and don't
provide
>> shortcuts. I'ld definitely vote for the old message
window style.

> This space is currently not used in Gajim, so that's
nice to have
> those icons I think.

Sure, why not. It just seemed to me like the icons were
intended as a
replacement for the context menu. But now the menu is back
and I'm happy
again. 

> But I agree that using only the keyboard is
interesting, not only for
> you. So what about adding shortcuts like Alt+I for
Information window,
> etc?

Ctrl-i already shows the buddy information window, but
keyboard
shortcuts to access functions directly withoud needing to go
the longer
way through a menu are always welcome.

  Henning

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Hi,

On Pungenday, day 55 of Discord 3174, Jonathan Schleifer
wrote:
> I already was pointed out to this mail shortly after it
appeared and
> it's already fixed in SVN.

Yeah, the menu was back yesterday when I made the upgrade.
Thanks a lot.

> Henning:
> All shortcuts were working, like Ctrl-I or Ctrl-H. Only
Alt-A
> wasn't working anymore, which is fixed in svn now. Hope
this improves
> Gajim's usability for you.

Yes, thanks. A shortcut for "send file" would be
awesome, in case there
isn't already one which I'm not aware of.

  Henning

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Henning Oschwald <h.oschwaldgmx.de> wrote:

> Yes, thanks. A shortcut for "send file" would
be awesome, in case
> there isn't already one which I'm not aware of.

I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat window and
the GC
window now (see r9601).

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On Prickle-Prickle, day 56 of Discord 3174, Jonathan
Schleifer wrote:

> I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat window
and the GC
> window now (see r9601).

This is great, thanks!

  Henning

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Henning, man you rock. I congratulate you for trying to use
GNU/Linux.
I always thought (and still think) that Windows is more
accessible and
easier to use as an OS for a blind man. It's good to see
your
alternative expressed here, and it's good to have more input
from you
in the future. So express yourself whenever needed 

On 5/9/08, Henning Oschwald <h.oschwaldgmx.de> wrote:
> On Prickle-Prickle, day 56 of Discord 3174, Jonathan
Schleifer wrote:
>
>> I added shortcuts for *EVERY* button in the chat
window and the GC
>> window now (see r9601).
>
> This is great, thanks!
>
>   Henning
>
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