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| Question about the registry constantly
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2007-08-03 13:33:08 |
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Does anyone know how to integrate the registry and make the registry constantly
check see if the provider is on. I install the jUDDI and MySQL. and i had
two computers that registered services in the registry. i'm try to figure
out to ask the registry to constantly check see if the computers are available
to provide the service(which mean see if the computer is on or not) i'm
thinking using ping, but i don't know where to start it. does anyone know
where and how to configure the database and registry? or which file i have to
make change?
Thank You For Your Time.
Bo Chen Wu
Computer Engineering & Mathematic
Pennsylvania State University
bow5003 psu.edu
(646)-861-9905
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| Re: Question about the registry
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2007-08-03 13:44:27 |
My guess is that the registry is NOT responsible for
checking if the
"end points" are active. It would be up to your
application to check
their end-points (i.e. the services) to see if they are
active - i.e.
after your application has obtained the service's end-point,
your
application would have to monitor that end-point to see if
it is active,
however this could per perceived as spamming by the server
and it not
good practice to keep pinging them "just to
check". You application
should handle the situation of when the end-point is down,
i.e. what is
the backup plan, etc.
These end-points are web servers and there could be many of
them in the
registry so you shouldn't expect the registry to do
maintenance check on
its registered services.
Regards - Alan
BO CHEN WU wrote:
> Does anyone know how to integrate the registry and make
the registry
> constantly check see if the provider is on.
> I install the jUDDI and MySQL. and i had two computers
that registered
> services in the registry. i'm try to figure out to ask
the registry to
> constantly check see if the computers are available to
provide the
> service(which mean see if the computer is on or not)
i'm thinking
> using ping, but i don't know where to start it. does
anyone know where
> and how to configure the database and registry? or
which file i have
> to make change?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank You For Your Time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bo Chen Wu
> Computer Engineering & Mathematic
> Pennsylvania State University
> bow5003 psu.edu
> (646)-861-9905
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| RE: Question about the registry
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2007-08-03 14:05:07 |
Alan is right. UDDI registry is not designed to monitor
service
availability. Some commercial products such as AmberPoint
provide
service monitoring functions as part of the SOA runtime
governance
solution. But such products are usually difficult to use
and configure.
If you just want to check if your computer is on or not,
it's better to
use SNMP-based monitoring tools (e.g. HP openview, but I am
sure there
are open-source tools as well). They are designed to
monitor the
availability of your network and hardware systems.
ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Vinh [mailto:alan.vinh nist.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:44 PM
To: juddi-user ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Question about the registry constantly check
the provider.
My guess is that the registry is NOT responsible for
checking if the
"end points" are active. It would be up to your
application to check
their end-points (i.e. the services) to see if they are
active - i.e.
after your application has obtained the service's end-point,
your
application would have to monitor that end-point to see if
it is active,
however this could per perceived as spamming by the server
and it not
good practice to keep pinging them "just to
check". You application
should handle the situation of when the end-point is down,
i.e. what is
the backup plan, etc.
These end-points are web servers and there could be many of
them in the
registry so you shouldn't expect the registry to do
maintenance check on
its registered services.
Regards - Alan
BO CHEN WU wrote:
> Does anyone know how to integrate the registry and make
the registry
> constantly check see if the provider is on.
> I install the jUDDI and MySQL. and i had two computers
that registered
> services in the registry. i'm try to figure out to ask
the registry to
> constantly check see if the computers are available to
provide the
> service(which mean see if the computer is on or not)
i'm thinking
> using ping, but i don't know where to start it. does
anyone know where
> and how to configure the database and registry? or
which file i have
> to make change?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thank You For Your Time.
>
>
>
>
>
> Bo Chen Wu
> Computer Engineering & Mathematic
> Pennsylvania State University
> bow5003 psu.edu
> (646)-861-9905
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| Re: Question about the registry
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2007-08-03 14:13:18 |
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Remember that it's not if the computer is ON, but if the application
server that is servicing the end-points is up and running/serving. Just
monitoring if the computer is on network and replying to the SNMP ping
is not enough. You are looking at sending requests to a web server, so
your application server that is running those web services must be
running and on line. This means that you would have to communicate with
those end-points to see if they are active, most web services will not
support a "pinging" service due to bandwidth and computing resources
just to say "yes, I'm still here".
Alan
Duan, Nick wrote:
hqmsg01.mcdonaldbradley.local"
type="cite">
Alan is right. UDDI registry is not designed to monitor service
availability. Some commercial products such as AmberPoint provide
service monitoring functions as part of the SOA runtime governance
solution. But such products are usually difficult to use and configure.
If you just want to check if your computer is on or not, it's better to
use SNMP-based monitoring tools (e.g. HP openview, but I am sure there
are open-source tools as well). They are designed to monitor the
availability of your network and hardware systems.
ND
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan Vinh [nist.gov">mailto:alan.vinh nist.gov]
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2007 2:44 PM
To: ws.apache.org">juddi-user ws.apache.org
Subject: Re: Question about the registry constantly check the provider.
My guess is that the registry is NOT responsible for checking if the
"end points" are active. It would be up to your application to check
their end-points (i.e. the services) to see if they are active - i.e.
after your application has obtained the service's end-point, your
application would have to monitor that end-point to see if it is active,
however this could per perceived as spamming by the server and it not
good practice to keep pinging them "just to check". You application
should handle the situation of when the end-point is down, i.e. what is
the backup plan, etc.
These end-points are web servers and there could be many of them in the
registry so you shouldn't expect the registry to do maintenance check on
its registered services.
Regards - Alan
BO CHEN WU wrote:
Does anyone know how to integrate the registry and make the registry
constantly check see if the provider is on.
I install the jUDDI and MySQL. and i had two computers that registered
services in the registry. i'm try to figure out to ask the registry to
constantly check see if the computers are available to provide the
service(which mean see if the computer is on or not) i'm thinking
using ping, but i don't know where to start it. does anyone know where
and how to configure the database and registry? or which file i have
to make change?
Thank You For Your Time.
Bo Chen Wu
Computer Engineering & Mathematic
Pennsylvania State University
psu.edu">bow5003 psu.edu
(646)-861-9905
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