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| I have this article I need to find |

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2006-08-25 05:21:03 |
This happens with databases too. Somewhere I have a copy of
an
article from the student newspaper of one of our members.
Basically an editorial asking why the school needed a
library
when students could get all this stuff on the Web for free.
Anyone in the know realized right away after reading the
editorial that the student was describing one of the
library's
subscription e-resource databases. Because there was no
"brought
to you by XYZ" attribution anywhere the student
automatically
assumed that they had stumbled on some cool
"free" Web resource.
Bernie Sloan
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[mailto:owner-liblicense-l lists.yale.edu] On Behalf
Of Hamaker, Charles
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 6:32 PM
To: liblicense-l lists.yale.edu
Subject: I have this article I need to find
So listen, I have this article I need to find. I know the
author's name and the title of the article. How do I find
it.
What's the library response today?
The quickest response is go to google scholar and type in
the
author's name in quotes (or the title in quotes). And click
on
the link you get.
The teaching response is probably much longer, and to be
honest,
with the depth of indexing in google scholar with only a few
major publishers holding out, a teaching response is
probably
going to not do much more than slow the user down, or lose
them
and send them to google rather than try to do it the
"right" way.
Because the teaching response is first you pick a database.
Which
database, well, that depends on what you know about the
article,
the journal it's in, the date of the article. If a
librarian
tries to send me to the library catalog, why should I go
there, I
don't want the JOURNAL, I want the article. If you send me
to a
database, someone has to determine first if the journal with
the
date I want is IN a specific database. And I don't really
NEED to
do that to get to many publisher website articles anymore.
And what do I think if I go to google scholar and find the
article and click on the link and get the article? Well the
most
obvious conclusion is why did I need a library in the first
place
if it's free on the web?
Librarians MIGHT know its not free on the web, that I am
only
getting the article because someone paid the bill, but then
again, other staff in the library might NOT know its because
someone paid the bill. And the end user isn't asking WHY
they got
it; they just know they got it.
So, for a modest proposal. Along with the obligatory
copyright
statement, could publishers please add, so its prints when
the
article prints, an obligatory THIS ARTICLE BROUGHT TO YOU
BUY
UNIVERSITY XYZ?
With otherwise well educated and net savy users, I'm having
a
problem, even with those who know something of what I spend
my
days doing--getting them to believe that if they found it on
google scholar that the Library and University had anything
to do
with them actually getting the article. This is dangerous
for all
sorts of reasons, and the biggest danger is de-funding of
library
purchasing. If an educated net savy user can't tell that
the
article was paid for by someone, we can hear a lot of
"I found it
free on the net" when it is anything but free.
The alternative, an XML file from each university library
with an
open URL resolver set up with Google so the library can be
selected in "Scholar Preferences" is the only
other option for
suggesting to library users that a specific library had
something
to do with getting their article. But that option is too
much for
many libraries to provide: either they don't have a
resolver or
may not have the know-how to create the XML file in the
format
Google needs. That still doesn't tell the casual user the
article
is paid for by a library.
So how about it? Can we get a brought to you by statement
printed
right next to that copyright statement?
Chuck Hamaker
Associate University Librarian Collections and Technical
Services
Atkins Library
University of North Carolina Charlotte
Charlotte, NC 28223
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| "ip=" command line
strangeness... |

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2006-08-25 05:48:54 |
Hi,
please provide the ip-commandline in the full-size format
ip=<my ip>:<server ip>:<host ip>:<net
mask>:<hostname>:<which ethernet port, e.g.
"eth0">
I assume, that this will fix your problem
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On Behalf Of T Ziomek
Sent: Freitag, 25. August 2006 01:39
To: linuxppc-embedded
Cc: tomz
Subject: "ip=" command line strangeness...
On my previous project, a 2.4 kernel on PPC, I frequently
used
"ip=w.x.y.z" on the kernel command line to
specify a static IP address for
my target board (when booting with a flash- or RAM-based
root filesystem).
Similarly, when using an NFS-mounted root fs, I would
use
"ip=w.x.y.z:a.b.c.d", along with the appropriate
"nfsroot=..." setting,
with my NFS server having IP a.b.c.d .
Now I am working with a 2.6.10-based kernel on ARM. Using
an NFS root fs
works fine when I use the expected
"ip=w.x.y.z:a.b.c.d". And booting off
with "root=/dev/hda1" works fine with
"ip=dhcp".
I'd expect to be able to use "root=/dev/hda1
ip=w.x.y.z" if I want the
target using a static IP address. But this fails, and in a
VERY weird
way: (1) It tries doing DHCP, which it shouldn't, and (2)
the DHCP fails,
which it shouldn't because it works when I want DHCP to be
used.
Here's a snippet of console output:
.
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NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets,
4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192
bind 16384)
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
Sending DHCP requests ...... timed out!
EMAC: TX Complete: Starting queue
IP-Config: Reopening network devices...
Sending DHCP requests ...
Okay, that's two weird things. There is a third -- this
problem goes a-
way if I change the command line to something like
"root=/dev/hda1 ip=w.x.y.z:a.b.c.d". The only
change is adding an NFS
server IP address to the "ip=" command, which
should have no effect be-
cause NFS is not being used. Yet when I do that the board
boots as ex-
pected -- it does not try to do DHCP, it does use /dev/hda1
for its root
fs, and it does take the specified IP address.
In fact, it works even if I use a command line with,
literally,
"root=/dev/hda1 ip=199.5.233.72:gobbledygook":
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NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP: routing cache hash table of 512 buckets,
4Kbytes
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 8192
bind 16384)
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 17
IP-Config: Guessing netmask 255.255.255.0
IP-Config: Complete:
device=eth0, addr=199.5.233.72,
mask=255.255.255.0, gw=255.255.255.255,
host=199.5.233.72, domain=,
nis-domain=(none),
bootserver=232.0.0.0, rootserver=232.0.0.0,
rootpath=
.
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This isn't a big problem, but can anybody explain what the
heck is going
on?
Thanks, Tom
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