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Journal publishing and author self-archiving: Peaceful Co-Existence and Fruitful Collaboration
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2006-12-24 14:53:36
Stevan, you seem averse to speculation, but I'd like to
propose 
that speculation-at least, informed speculation-has an
important 
role to play in planning. "Worst case scenario"
planning is 
frequently used in business, in the military, etc., and for
good 
reason, especially for those who are risk-averse. It appears
that 
the Bush administration didn't do enough of this kind of 
speculating when it ordered the invasion of Iraq, confident
that 
its assumption of controlled change to an orderly democratic

society was correct. We all know what happened as a result!
What 
I am hypothesizing for the transition to OA is more the kind
of 
short-term chaos that has transpired in Iraq than the smooth

transition to a functioning new system that you are counting
on. 
I'm urging university administrators not to make the same
mistake 
that the Bush administration did!

As for the conflation of costs for supporting OA journals
and 
costs for supporting editorial offices on university
campuses, I 
admit that I wasn't thinking so much of BMC, PLoS, etc., as
being 
the model for the future as you evidently are. Given the
steep 
increases in fees that those two OA publishers have recently

instituted, it isn't clear to me that they are viable models
for 
the long run, or will be around for many more years.
(Foundation 
funding is usually short term, and PLoS has survived largely
on 
that kind of funding so far.) I also suspect-though I do not

know- that the vast majority of 2,500 OA journals listed in
the 
directory are "mom and pop" operations run out of
editorial 
offices based on campuses, rather than parts of larger
BMC-type 
operations. It was these journals I was thinking about, and 
supposing that the migration would mainly be handled by 
individual editors of journals abandoned by commercial 
publishers, who most likely would turn to their own
universities 
first for support before seeking out a BMC (if any still
exists 
at that point in time).

Many of the large commercial publishers now provide
substantial 
funding for the operation of editorial offices on campus.
This is 
the funding that will disappear and need to be replaced. It
is 
not just for administrative support. Editors are also paid
for 
their work. Will all of them be willing to continue
dedicating 
their time when they are not being paid? And what about 
copyediting? You nowhere mention this as a cost, and it can
be 
significant. In my experience, very few academic editors are
able 
to do line editing very well (nor should they spend their 
valuable time doing so anyway), and very little of academic 
writing is not in need of editing. (I understand that the
British 
have a different attitude about copyediting, but in the U.S.
it 
is generally valued a lot, and expected, by most authors.) I

speak from experience here, as I did copyediting full-time
for 
the first three years of my publishing career and continued
it 
part-time for another twenty years. If you abandon
copyediting, 
you will have a significantly degraded product. Good
copyediting 
comes at a cost, though, at about $25 an hour.

Yes, author fees can cover this cost, too, but your model
for 
transferring costs from libraries to on-campus editorial
offices 
or BMC-type publishers assumes a smooth transfer. Have you
had 
any experience in university administration? Nothing works
that 
smoothly in universities, I assure you. A one-to-one
transfer of 
library serials expenditures to faculty publishing fees is
no 
simple matter, nor is there any guarantee that the funds
freed up 
by cancelled subscriptions would migrate directly to author
fees 
anyway. There are plenty of other uses to which such funds
might 
be put. Libraries have multiple needs, and supporting
faculty 
publication may not immediately be at the top of their
lists. 
Even today, when costs might be seemingly passed on easily
to 
faculty who avail themselves of library e-reserve
operations, it 
doesn't happen because the administrative costs of such
transfers 
are perceived by some libraries as steeper than the costs of

paying for all e-reserve permission fees themselves.

Your model also assumes that subscription savings will
balance 
out author fees at any given university. That is a very big 
assumption to make. Yes, the most active authors are
probably at 
the most research-intensive universities, but I doubt there
is 
any one-to-one correspondence. Some universities may find
that 
they have to spend much more in author fees than they save
in 
subscriptions, whereas others may find the reverse. Also, I 
suspect that, to the extent this correspondence exists in 
science, it exists much less so in the humanities and social

sciences. Over time we have found in university press
publishing 
that there has been a very significant dispersion of talent
to 
non-ARL campuses, such that we are publishing many more
authors 
from second- and third-tier universities and colleges than
we 
did, say, twenty or thirty years ago.  The savings from 
subscription cancellations on those campuses may well not
come 
close to covering author fees for their faculty, who will
thereby 
be disadvantaged in getting their writing published unless
their 
universities can tap some other source of revenue for that 
purpose.

Now, you might say, OA journals will take these inequities
into 
account and charge lower fees to such authors, or waive them

altogether. But then you introduce a whole new level of 
administrative cost into the system because there has to be
some 
way to verify "hardship" cases, especially if you
are dealing 
with authors in this country and not from some very poor 
developing countries. If all this is done on the
"honor" system, 
you open the system to a significant level of corruption and

free-riding. Moreover, the costs still have to be paid, and
this 
scenario would mean that the wealthier universities would
again 
be supporting the cost of the whole system that benefits 
everyone, as they do now for university presses.

You're also assuming that library fees would be readily 
transferred outside the university to publishers like BMC or

society OA publishers through author fees. That would
introduce 
yet another level of complexity into the system, as I do not

share your assumption that universities would as readily
allow 
transfer of funds to such an entity as they would to another

university-based publisher. Procedures would no doubt be 
instituted for evaluating such "external"
publishers, similar to 
procedures that already exist to vet bids from faculty who
need 
publication subventions for their monographs. I should also
point 
out that the subvention system for monograph publishing,
despite 
a clearly understood and documented need, is very fragmented
and 
scattershot. Many large and wealthy universities will not
provide 
such subventions at all, whereas some small colleges do. And
at 
some universities that have no centralized funds, some
individual 
departments will subsidize their faculty whereas others will
not. 
There is no rhyme or reason to the "system" as it
exists today, 
and I wouldn't expect it to be any different with respect to

supporting faculty who need to pay for journal articles to
be 
published. If you want "evidence" of what exists
today in order 
to predict the future, here it is, and it doesn't lend any 
credence to your scenario!

So, my message boils down to this: assumptions matter, and
they 
need to be examined carefully, and planning done accordingly
to 
avoid the worst possibilities that could ensue. My
observation of 
efforts by universities to change the tenure-and-promotion
system 
over four decades in the face of obvious dysfunction doesn't
make 
me optimistic that universities can bring about even gradual

change very easily, let alone swift and comprehensive
change!

--Sandy Thatcher
Penn State Press


>On Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Sandy Thatcher wrote:
>
>>  I'm afraid I don't share your "serene
confidence that there are
>>  plenty of available OA hosts, big and small, ready
to take on
>>  the implementation of peer review for migrating
established
>>  journal titles and ed-boards, scaled down to OA
publishing."
>
>That's fine. It's all speculation anyway, on both of our
sides:
>speculation that self-archiving will or won't lead to
>cancellations, and if so, speculation about when, and
how much;
>and speculation that, if much and sudden, current
publishers will
>or won't jettison their titles rather than downsize; and
>speculation that, if jettisoned, there will or won't be
OA
>publishers happy to take over the titles.
>
>What's sure, because already tested and demonstrated, is
that
>self-archiving is highly beneficial to research and
readily
>feasible, right now, through mandated self-archiving.
Hence
>self-archiving can and should and will be mandated at
this time.
>The data-free speculation and counterspeculation about
its
>possible eventual effects on publishing has been going
on for
>over 10 years now, so the data-based practical step is
already
>well overdue.
>
>One point, though, is a point of logic rather than of
>hypothetical conjecture: In your reasoning about your
>hypothetical scenario that you consider the most
probable one
>(catastrophic cancellations, abandonment of journals by
their
>non-OA publishers, and failure of the abandoned journals
to
>migrate to OA publishers because OA costs could not be
met and
>there were not enough would-be OA publishers able or
willing to
>meet the demand) you have inadvertently conflated two
very
>different factors: One is the current cost to
universities of
>hosting their journals' editors' offices, and the other
is the OA
>publication cost to universities for their own research
article
>output.
>
>These are two entirely different things. Journal hosting
costs
>have nothing to do with OA, or OA publishing. Whatever
journal
>hosting universities are doing today, in the non-OA era,
for
>non-OA journals, while paying journal subscriptions for
whatever
>journals they subscribe to, the only change in the OA
era, if
>subscriptions were indeed all cancelled suddenly, as you
>hypothesize, would be (1) sudden, substantial windfall
savings
>for universities, and (2) sudden, substantially lower
publishing
>costs for journals (because, ex hypothesi, they no
longer sell
>texts, paper or online, but only perform peer review).
>
>Those lower publishing costs would (again, ex hypothesi)
be paid
>in the form of OA publishing charges, for each
university's
>article output, out of each university's subscription
savings.
>This has nothing at all to do with a university's
journal hosting
>costs!
>
>(Perhaps what you were doing was conflating the
university as a
>journal subscriber, the university as a research
article-provider
>[with its associated OA publishing costs] and the
university as a
>potential OA publisher itself!  None of this, except
possibly the
>last, has anything to do with the free resources many
>universities currently provide for hosting the journals
-- OA or
>[mostly] non-OA -- of publishers other than themselves!)

[SNIP]

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