RE: Clarification on SERU proposal

Wouldn't it be possible for publishers who agree with the
SERU 
terms and conditions to simply use that for their
click-through 
agreements?

Buddy Pennington
Serial Acquisitions Librarian
University of Missouri - Kansas City
University Libraries
www.umkc.edu/lib

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Subject: Re: Clarification on SERU proposal

But doesn't this "agreement," whether it takes the
form of a 
"written license" or not, still come with
"terms and conditions," 
which is what the recent post from the University of Chicago

Press mentioned. And if one must accept these "terms
and 
conditions" through some sort of click-on procedure,
isn't that 
still a "license" fully valid in a court of law? 
Our officials 
at Penn State frown on such click-on agreements, and we at
the 
Press have had to negotiate individually a number of them
anyway 
with the vendors offering them.

Sandy Thatcher
Penn State University Press

>Hi Joe,
>
>One of the defining discoveries in this process was to
learn that as
>long as there was a written license agreement, it would
be normal for
>each state institution to require that their own
specific language be
>included, thus precluding any standardized agreement. In
part to avoid
>this situation, we sought to develop a true alternative
to a license
>agreement - rather than an alternative license
agreement. Librarians
>and publishers have noted that often we are comfortable
with an implied

>contract just as with a verbal agreement. Where there is
general
>consensus, by avoiding the paperwork, we can streamline
the process for

>anyone involved. Realistically, in many transactions
there isn't a
>potential loss of substantial revenue for the publisher
or risk for
>either publisher or library. With new publishers who
would not take
>issue with terms supported by librarians, the SERU
approach actually
>shortens the sales cycle and eliminates the delay of
processing
>paperwork that isn't used.
>
>Further comments are welcome on SERU which is available
now in draft
>form with FAQs on the NISO website.
>http://www.niso.o
rg/committees/SERU
>
>Judy Luther MLS, MBA
>www.InformedStrategies.com
>610-645-7546 EDT