RE: NIH mandate - institutional repositories

Maybe there is another way.

Publishers can help self-archiving, provided it does not 
(actually or potentially) threaten the viability of their 
journals.

If all mandators - as some funding bodies already do - made
funds 
available for OA publication, publishers would probably have
no 
problem in making the deposit themselves, of the definitive

published version, with full and well formed metadata.

Sally Morris
Consultant, Morris Associates (Publishing Consultancy)
South House, The Street
Email:  sallymorris-assocs.demon.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-liblicense-llists.yale.edu
[mailto:owner-liblicense-llists.yale.edu] On Behalf
Of Michael Carroll
Sent: 30 November 2007 00:37
To: liblicense-llists.yale.edu
Subject: RE: NIH mandate - institutional repositories

As a Selected Works author,
http://work
s.bepress.com/michael_carroll/, I agree wholeheartedly
that it provides the incentive Aaron mentions.

The other option to consider to increase deposits in the
absence 
of a mandate is to find an entry point for the repository
into 
faculty members' existing practices concerning publication. 
For 
example, either at the time of acceptance or publication,
faculty 
have to update their list of publications on their C.V.s,
bios, 
and web pages.  Repository managers or librarians could
assist 
with this task in exchange for a copy of the author's
manuscript 
and the citation metadata.

Best,


Michael W. Carroll
Professor of Law
Villanova University School of Law
Research papers: http://law.bep
ress.com/michael_carroll
http://ssrn.com/author=
330326
blog: http://www.carrollogos.or
g/

See also www.creativecommons.org

>>> edlinecon.berkeley.edu 11/28/2007 7:50:47 PM
>>>

My own thinking, and the philosophy of bepress, is that the
university is filled with many interests and constituencies.
The
puzzle is getting them to work well together. Faculty seek
to
promote themselves individually, and seek control and
identity;
universities seek to promote themselves and grow; librarians
seek
to create useful order from chaos. These goals can, but need
not,
conflict.

As to mandates, I favor them.  As I see it, the university
or
government funds much of my research.  Why should they not
demand
and insist on a non-exclusive copy of my writings to
preserve for
posterity (for what posterity cares about my work) or to
advertise to the world, should I be lucky enough that UC
Berkeley
could bask in the glory of my writing?

All that said, for various political and practical reasons,
including lobbying by Elsevier, I don't see *effective*
mandates
coming for a little while yet.

In the meantime, the key for those who are pro-repository is
to
find a way to work with faculty.  How do you make faculty
volunteer or indeed be eager? Convince them that their
career
will benefit and give them control and something to
identify
with.  Faculty want their own place...one they control... on
the
internet.  Many build sites themselves with cumbersome and
kludgy
tools.  These sites are highly idiosyncratic data
structures.
Better that they should be easy to use, beautiful, and
easily
harvestable (or automatically incorporated) into the
institution's IR (or Research Showcase, as I like to call
it).

For this, bepress developed SelectedWorks
(http://works.bepress.com
). D-space has developed personal
research pages.  These, I predict, will be key to filling
repositories until effective mandates arrive.

___

P.S. Please have a look at http://works.be
press.com/aaron_edlin/
and sign up for notifications of my new work! =A0 Aaron
Edlin
Chairman, The Berkeley Electronic Press Richard Jennings
Professor of Economics and Law, UC Berkeley Homepage:
http://works.be
press.com/aaron_edlin/

Co-Editor, The Economists' Voice, http://www.bepress.com/ev
Editor, The B.E. Journals of Theoretical Economics,
http://www.bepress.com/b
ejte


-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-liblicense-llists.yale.edu] On Behalf
Of Anthony
Watkinson
Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2007 8:06 PM
To: liblicense-llists.yale.edu
Subject: Re: NIH mandate - institutional repositories

It is no point in Professor Harnad's coming out with a whole
lot
of references to assertions made by him or his friends and
associates, almost none of which come from the
peer-reviewed
literature. I am only a part-time academic but to me there
is a
real difference between an institutional repository that
exists
to serve faculty and an institutional repository that is
part of
a mechanism telling me what I must do.