RE: Deposit Mandates as part of Publisher Services

Paul, I believe those (below) are author charges for
immediate OA 
via "open choice" type arrangements, rather than
fees to submit 
articles to NIH to comply with the 12-month mandate?

To my inquiry the other day to the list about which
publishers 
are planning to submit to NIH as part of their regular
publishing 
services, I've heard already from about half a dozen who are

lined up to do this, some larger, some smaller.  I've heard
from 
others (society publishers) that they are trying to work
with NIH 
to submit articles, but it seems as if the NIH is not
smoothing 
the way, for various reasons.  Only one publisher so far
will 
levy a (miniscule) service fee for submission to various 
mandating agencies.

Right now we have a kind of mess that needs time to sort
out: 
trying to achieve compliance for literally thousands of
authors 
and articles in a couple of months (since the mandate was 
announced in January) is a herculean task, when the
institutional 
underpinnings (the list of these is substantial) are mostly
not 
yet present.  We have a situation in which articles can be 
submitted by (1) authors, many of whom would rather just
have 
someone else do it, like the publishers -- btw, the NIH 
instructions for authors are not as helpful as they could
be; (2) 
the research institutions, i.e., the ones that already have

everything in place to do so; or (3) the publishers.  The 
potential for redundancy is huge and it is wasteful.  The 
publishers, most of whom are willing to help if given half a

chance, are the ones with the redacted articles... seem like
the 
most logical funnel to the NIH, if this can be worked out.

Wouldn't it be good if the NIH, the publishers, and the
research 
institutions would get into a room together and thrash this
all 
out in an sensible way?  Ann Okerson


On Tue, 18 Mar 2008, Gherman, Paul wrote:

> At Vanderbilt, our Medical Library has been doing
significant 
> work contacting publishers to find out what their
policy and 
> procedures are. One discovery is that some of them
intend to 
> charge authors between $900 and $3,000 to submit
articles to 
> NIH. Some will allow for early posting, if the fee is
paid.
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-liblicense-llists.yale.edu
> [mailto:owner-liblicense-llists.yale.edu] On Behalf
Of T Scott Plutchak
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 8:08 PM
> To: liblicense-llists.yale.edu; liblicense-llists.yale.edu
> Subject: RE: Deposit Mandates as part of Publisher
Services
>
> Thank you, Ann, for suggesting this!  I've been
puzzling over 
> the same thing.  Might I suggest that it would also be
useful 
> if you could get samples of the messages that the
publisher 
> will send to the investigator to alert them that they
need to 
> go in to approve the submission?  It'll be very helpful
as 
> we're preparing information pages for our folks if we
can 
> provide them with concrete examples of what to expect.
>
> Scott
>
> T. Scott Plutchak
> Director, Lister Hill Library of the Health Sciences
> University of Alabama at Birmingham