pyGTK Vs. wxPython

On Tuesday 27 March 2007 20:31, James Matthews wrote:
> Hello
>
> I know people have been asked this question so many
times ( as i have seen
> from the archives on google etc..) i am now planning on
learning either one
> and i am stuck! Cross platform is not an option i would
guess the main
> things are widgets and ease of learning!
>
> Thanks
>
> James
On SUSE 10.2 I have python-wxGTK and it installs wxPython.  
What are the 
differences between python-wxGTK, wxPython, and pyGTK?
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johnf wrote:
> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 20:31, James Matthews wrote:
>> Hello
>>
>> I know people have been asked this question so many
times ( as i have seen
>> from the archives on google etc..) i am now
planning on learning either one
>> and i am stuck! Cross platform is not an option i
would guess the main
>> things are widgets and ease of learning!
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> James
> On SUSE 10.2 I have python-wxGTK and it installs
wxPython.   What are the 
> differences between python-wxGTK, wxPython, and pyGTK?

Hi John,

python-wxGTK is your package manager's name for the GTK port
of 
wxPython. pyGTK is another toolkit, like wxPython, but that
directly 
wraps GTK.

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On Tuesday 27 March 2007 21:31, Paul McNett wrote:
> GTK port of wxPython.
I'm some what confused I thought GTK (gnome?) , QT, and
wxWidgets were graphic 
Lib's.  And wxPython was a wrapper for wxWidgets.  Now you
say that 
python-GTK is a GTK port of wxPython.  Why would GTK want to
port wxWidgets?  
I guess I don't know what GTK is about or there is different
def's for GTK.
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On Wednesday 28 March 2007 01:47, Christian wrote:
> johnf wrote:
> > On Tuesday 27 March 2007 21:31, Paul McNett
wrote:
> >> GTK port of wxPython.
> >
> > I'm some what confused I thought GTK (gnome?) ,
QT, and wxWidgets were
> > graphic Lib's.  And wxPython was a wrapper for
wxWidgets.  Now you say
> > that python-GTK is a GTK port of wxPython.  Why
would GTK want to port
> > wxWidgets?
>
> no. python-wxGTK
>
> > I guess I don't know what GTK is about or there is
different def's for
> > GTK.
>
> wxWidgets/wxPython is using the 'native' gui lib on
each platform. As there
> is no such 'nativ' toolkit on X (linux), several ports
exist among them the
> GTK port is the most common. Maybe in future there will
be more ports, e.g.
> I heard some people say that they would like to see a
QT port. This would
> then probably be called python-wxQT.
>
> Christian
OK that makes sense.  This question actually came up while
trying to find 
wxPython 2.8 for my SUSE 10.2 (without success) I kept
finding info for 
wxPython 2.6 associated with python-wxGTK.  


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James Matthews wrote:
> I know people have been asked this question so many
times ( as i have 
> seen from the archives on google etc..) i am now
planning on learning 
> either one and i am stuck! Cross platform is not an
option

Do you mean you only need one platform? If so, which one.
I'd also 
suggest that even if you only need to support one platform
now, it's a 
good idea to keep you options open.

-CHB

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James Matthews wrote:
> I mean is that cross compatibility is not a must

OK. I'm going to try again. If you are supporting only one
platform, 
then which toolkit is best can depend on which platform you
are running, 
so you'll get better advice if you tell us.

> i just want to know 
> which one is the easiest one to learn! with out
compromising on power 
> and widgets etc...

much depends on the etc. (platform native-ness, ???)

I've never used PyGTK, so I can't comment on easy-to-learn,
but you're 
hard pressed to beat wxPython for power and widgets. If you
need a 
particular high-level widget, that might help your decision.
For example:

Lots of folks like TK's canvas (though wx has FloatCanvas
and OGL). 
Ditto TK's text widget (wx has HTMLWindow and the new
RichText control)

wx has:
Things like the wx.HTMLWindow and the wx.Grid, which can
really help if 
you need such a thing.

I don't know what nifty hogh-level widgets PyGTK has.

If tell us what tools you need, we may be able to help
more.

oh, and you may want to look at pyQT also.

-Chris


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Hi James,

James Matthews wrote:
> Ok thanks Chis,
>
> Now where is a good resource to learn wxpython i have
read the online 
> tutorials but i am looking for a place to really
harness the power! 
> Also does wxpython have those little tool tips that
windows xp pops up 
> every once in a while in the corner!
Yes, wxPython can do tool tips very nicely.

So, I guess you develop for Windows?!  This would for me to
be reason 
enough NOT to even consider pyGTK, it does not look nice on
Windows - 
also I think I have only seen one app.

Werner

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johnf wrote:
> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 01:47, Christian wrote:
>> johnf wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 21:31, Paul McNett
wrote:
>>>> GTK port of wxPython.
>>> I'm some what confused I thought GTK (gnome?) ,
QT, and wxWidgets were
>>> graphic Lib's.  And wxPython was a wrapper for
wxWidgets.  Now you say
>>> that python-GTK is a GTK port of wxPython.  Why
would GTK want to port
>>> wxWidgets?
>> no. python-wxGTK
>>
>>> I guess I don't know what GTK is about or there
is different def's for
>>> GTK.
>> wxWidgets/wxPython is using the 'native' gui lib on
each platform. As there
>> is no such 'nativ' toolkit on X (linux), several
ports exist among them the
>> GTK port is the most common. Maybe in future there
will be more ports, e.g.
>> I heard some people say that they would like to see
a QT port. This would
>> then probably be called python-wxQT.
>>
>> Christian
> OK that makes sense.  This question actually came up
while trying to find 
> wxPython 2.8 for my SUSE 10.2 (without success) I kept
finding info for 
> wxPython 2.6 associated with python-wxGTK.  
> 
> 

You still are not able to compile?
Didn't the wiki page which i made help you?

Uwe


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On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:24, Uwe Grauer wrote:
> johnf wrote:
> > On Wednesday 28 March 2007 01:47, Christian
wrote:
> >> johnf wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 21:31, Paul
McNett wrote:
> >>>> GTK port of wxPython.
> >>>
> >>> I'm some what confused I thought GTK
(gnome?) , QT, and wxWidgets were
> >>> graphic Lib's.  And wxPython was a wrapper
for wxWidgets.  Now you say
> >>> that python-GTK is a GTK port of wxPython.
 Why would GTK want to port
> >>> wxWidgets?
> >>
> >> no. python-wxGTK
> >>
> >>> I guess I don't know what GTK is about or
there is different def's for
> >>> GTK.
> >>
> >> wxWidgets/wxPython is using the 'native' gui
lib on each platform. As
> >> there is no such 'nativ' toolkit on X (linux),
several ports exist among
> >> them the GTK port is the most common. Maybe in
future there will be more
> >> ports, e.g. I heard some people say that they
would like to see a QT
> >> port. This would then probably be called
python-wxQT.
> >>
> >> Christian
> >
> > OK that makes sense.  This question actually came
up while trying to find
> > wxPython 2.8 for my SUSE 10.2 (without success) I
kept finding info for
> > wxPython 2.6 associated with python-wxGTK.
>
> You still are not able to compile?
> Didn't the wiki page which i made help you?
>
> Uwe
Uwe I never got it to work.  I tried for several days.  At
this point I don't 
recall the issues (I believe I reported them to you).  I do
recall 
the "configure" worked and so did the second step.
 Anyway, the question was 
about the python-wxGTK stuff which was explained.  I'll just
have to wait 
until SUSE or someone provides the install.
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johnf wrote:
> On Thursday 29 March 2007 03:24, Uwe Grauer wrote:
>> johnf wrote:
>>> On Wednesday 28 March 2007 01:47, Christian
wrote:
>>>> johnf wrote:
>>>>> On Tuesday 27 March 2007 21:31, Paul
McNett wrote:
>>>>>> GTK port of wxPython.
>>>>> I'm some what confused I thought GTK
(gnome?) , QT, and wxWidgets were
>>>>> graphic Lib's.  And wxPython was a
wrapper for wxWidgets.  Now you say
>>>>> that python-GTK is a GTK port of
wxPython.  Why would GTK want to port
>>>>> wxWidgets?
>>>> no. python-wxGTK
>>>>
>>>>> I guess I don't know what GTK is about
or there is different def's for
>>>>> GTK.
>>>> wxWidgets/wxPython is using the 'native'
gui lib on each platform. As
>>>> there is no such 'nativ' toolkit on X
(linux), several ports exist among
>>>> them the GTK port is the most common. Maybe
in future there will be more
>>>> ports, e.g. I heard some people say that
they would like to see a QT
>>>> port. This would then probably be called
python-wxQT.
>>>>
>>>> Christian
>>> OK that makes sense.  This question actually
came up while trying to find
>>> wxPython 2.8 for my SUSE 10.2 (without success)
I kept finding info for
>>> wxPython 2.6 associated with python-wxGTK.
>> You still are not able to compile?
>> Didn't the wiki page which i made help you?
>>
>> Uwe
> Uwe I never got it to work.  I tried for several days. 
At this point I don't 
> recall the issues (I believe I reported them to you). 
I do recall 
> the "configure" worked and so did the second
step.  Anyway, the question was 
> about the python-wxGTK stuff which was explained.  I'll
just have to wait 
> until SUSE or someone provides the install.

This means, you don't have the right dev-packages
installed.
If it would help, i could provide a tarball for you.
If you want the tarball, just drop me a mail in private or
on dabo-dev.

Uwe



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